Can't possibly be any more different than the Obama campaign from Hope and Change to Disappointment and Despair. Hype and Blame. Hoping to find pocket CHANGE in the sofa. From the "post racial" President to the most racialy divisive President. From "this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal ..." to "Romney killed a cancer victim".

How anyone can vote again for a fraud who hates America is baffling.

I think you should hold your breath.

Joe - As opposed to a chameleon who wants to outsource it?

You want to talk about "outsourcing"? From the Outsourcer in Chief Obama “And I will invest $15 billion a year in renewable sources of energy to create five million new energy jobs over the next decade – jobs that pay well and can’t be outsourced; jobs building solar panels and wind turbines and a new electricity grid; jobs that will help us eliminate the oil we import from the Middle East in ten years and help save the planet in the bargain. That’s how America can lead again.” Swiss-Based Landis+Gyr Received Over $50 Million In Stimulus Contracts For Their Smart Grid Meters. Cathy Zoi, A Former Obama Energy Department Official, Held Over $250,000 Worth Of Stock In The Company As They Profited From Her Department’s Policies. Zoi Had Previously Served As An Executive Director At Landis+Gyr Before Joining The Obama Administration. …

Two Korean Manufacturers Of Electric Vehicle Batteries Were Given $300 Million To Build Plants In Michigan. Union Workers Are Now Claiming That Foreign Nationals Are Being Brought In To Fill Jobs That They Could Take. The Department Of Energy Has Admitted That 11 Of The 18 Contractors On Site Are Asian Firms."

No sources for any of these claims, as usual.

Not So Able, ever used that thing called a search engine? This is how they work. You copy a few key words of the post in question, copy then into your fav search engine and click. And a wonderful amazing thing happens. A list of stories containing those words is listed for you. See, this way you can use any source you choose instead of making empty claims of the one source given.

Oh yeah - now I remember all the Repubs lining up to push for that WindPower XL pipeline - how was it that they were going to turn oil sands into windpower?

"WindPower XL pipeline" ??? That would be the Keystone XL which had nothing to do with wind!

My point exactly - the Repubs weren't exactly behind any windpower - so how do you get it through when all they want to do is make you a "one-term President?"

Wind is a dud dude! Only losers get behind losing energy sources.
"Wind Industry Has Lost 10,000 Jobs Under Obama"
"A recent lengthy report by Reuters confirms what many conservatives have long known: President Obama's promise to create millions of so-called "green jobs" has been a colossal and expensive failure.

A few highlights from the report:

1) Since 2009, the wind industry has lost 10,000 jobs, even as the energy capacity of wind farms has almost doubled. By contrast, the oil and gas industry have created 75,000 jobs since Mr. Obama took office.

2) "A $500 million job-training program has so far helped fewer than 20,000 people find work, far short of its goal." The program was so bad that "the Labor Department's inspector general recommended last fall that the agency should return the $327 million that remained unspent." They didn't. And now, the department "remains far short of its goal of placing 80,000 workers into green jobs by 2013."

3) According to the Labor Department's own figures, the push for so-called "green jobs" has been an abysmal failure. "By the end of 2011, some 16,092 participants had found new work in a "green" field, according to the Labor Department - roughly one-fifth of its target."

Joeblob - oil & gas are finite resources. Guaranteed to be a loser eventually. Gas might pollute a little less than oil, but there is more work to do to eliminate the flaming drinking water supply. Oil will continue to deplete the ozone layer, and before you know it you'll be able to by oceanfront lots in Frederick County. Get your head out of your "Akin-hole."

I'm not huge on role models, but I think the leader of the USA should be somewhat of an example. Thurston Howell III is not the best example - people will want to do what he does, and offshore their money, too. And fire people. And the list goes on.

"Joeblob" "Akin-hole." When you reach your 12th birthday, come on back to discuss energy.

When you put a wind turbine on your car let me know.

natural gas is the way to go, but reality is, its still not safe. Fracking is not safe.
Oil, that's just borrowing time and permanently damaging our country. Ever hear of "scorched earth policy'? That's what the Keystone pipeline is.

Joe, I find it very ironic that in another thread you talk about cyberbullies, yet here you are, calling people who disagree with you losers. Awesome.

I agree wind is not viable yet. I can't blame Obama for trying. wind will be around in 50-100 years. Oil not so much.

again, I don't think Obama's been amazing, but I agree with his view of America moreso then Romney's. So yeah, we'll see what happens in November.

Tim, I never accused or said any particular person is a loser. So it is not a personal attack. As soon as I read "Joeblob" all civility was removed and i will respond in kind to such.
NG Is the way to go and is not any more dangerous than any other fuel source.
There is not one alternative to gasoline and diesel for transportation now or in the next 30 years. Not one. We will need to drill for oil until the sun stops shining since far more than gasoline and diesel are form oil. Lubricants and plastics and fertilizer etc will be needed for the next generations. NG is safe and has more energy than any alternative fuel today. Ethanol is more dangerous than gasoline. Has less energy, causes less MPG etc.
ALL internal combustion engines can burn NG with little modification. The fuel tank is the biggest expense in converting a gas car to NG.

There was never burning water out of faucets. Fracking deos not cause earthquakes and fracking takes place miles deep not where we draw our well water from.
If the enviros had their way we would have NO energy. All of it to them has problems. Coal, gasoline, NG, hydrogen can all be use responsibly and should. Obama's "all the above" plan is just that. ALL the energy from ABOVE the surface, nothing from below.

"I can't blame Obama for trying. " NO! Let him try with HIS money, not mine ot his donors and that is where it is going. Socialist investment with private return.

First things first - If I am "Honeygogal", you are JoeBlob - a sloppy one, at that. Did you pick up on that yet? I chose the "Akin" analogy to keep the improper words out of the Patch.

Your imagination is so limited. No, you don't put a windmill on your car, but maybe you drive an electric car charged up with power generated by wind - am I going too fast for you?

And yes, we will need petroleum for some time, but employing clean alternatives wherever we can (like powering the vehicles) will reduce our need for fossil fuels. Let me know if you need some pictures to better understand the philosophy.

Fisker is an American company. Unfortunately, thanks to the outsourcing of American manufacturing jobs during the last 20 years (not the last 3), we are not as capable in manufacturing as we used to be. The outsourcing works for now, and it will come back over time.

Let me remind you that GM is building a significant automotive electric motor manufacturing plant in White Marsh, and it takes quite a while to build from scratch and get it going. Foreign countries like Korea, China & Japan have a head start in battery technology since they build all of those electronic devices that we can't seem to live without. When the market demands it, American companies will jump in there, too.

Wow, it doesn't take much to get your FOXy juices flowing, eh?

Fisker got taxpayer money to outsource production of a 1%er auto. Fisker is dying just like Solyndra.
GM is building more plants in Mexico than the US.

And Romney is continuing to let his money work for him in Switzerland & The Cayman Islands. Just what we need in a President...

Honeygal sure has the demonrat talking points down well.

"Cayman Islands Based Gawker Media Attacks Mitt Romney for Cayman Island Assets"

"Feinstein. OpenSecrets.org lists her as the seventh-wealthiest senator, with a net worth between $44 million and $94 million, according to her latest disclosure forms. And, just like Romney, she keeps a portion of it in offshore accounts. Her most recent reports say she has an unspecified amount (at least $1 million) “held independently by the spouse or independent child” in Coral Growth Investments, Ltd., in St. Peter Port, Guernsey. Guernsey, a tax haven, is a small island in the English Channel that early this year drew the ire of a British Labour-party leader for helping wealthy Brits dodge taxes. The California senator also has between $500,000 and $1 million in a fund called Cevian Capital II L.L.C. in Jersey, another of the Channel Islands. According to her latest forms, that holding generated between $15,000 and $50,000 in capital gains, interest, and dividends. Feinstein has another $1,000 to $15,000 in Mauritius, an island nation in the Indian Ocean off Madagascar that is an up-and-coming tax haven."

Faux outrage for a topic few care about. Run on Obama's policy not where someone keeps their cash. Oh that's right! He can't run on his record of total failure.

Is Diane Feinstein running for president? No. Is it your contention that because Diane Feinstein keeps money in offshore accounts that it's ok?

Her Facebook page is here; some of her friends congratulate her on appearing in the Obama ad. In addition to the fact that she is a registered Democrat, check out her Facebook “likes.” They make it obvious that Ms. Ciano is a devoted Democrat and a left-wing activist. Here are some of her “likes,” beginning with the earliest in time:

* Democracy For America
* Tar Sands Action
* Amy Goodman
* Barack Obama
* Costoftaxcuts.com
* Being Liberal
* MoveOn.org
* Bernie Sanders Tells You A Secret the GOP Would Rather You Didn’t Know
* Miss Piggy Delivers the Best Takedown of Fox News We’ve Seen All Month
* Think Progress
* The Best Quote From Barack Obama We’ve Seen This Week
* Dow and Monsanto Join Forces to Poison America’s Heartland
* Climate Reality
* Grist.org
* The Amazing Victory Scored With Obama That More People Should Be

Joeblob, Joeblob - you just can't beat a good Joeblob...

Drudge - REALLY? He certainly is an objective source.

OMG Stevee...you are being silly enough to bring up the nudie bars, are you?...not with all the examples of moral disrepair in your corner?...I hope not. For the love of God, don't open up a hornet's nest darling!!! Family values are good Stevee, really honey child. If you agree say yea!!!! and let it slide darling, let it slide!!! Believe me Stevee, I am not trying to set you up, honest, honest, honey child!! :-)

"Rep. Kerry Gauthier, a Democrat from Duluthadmitted having a liason with the boy. They say he won't be charged in the July incident because the boy was older than 16, the legal age of consent, and no money was exchanged."
Or rest stops for the Democrat perverts!

Steve - LOL - that would be a good survey to make over this week...

Really? Republicans have been outnumbering Democrats in restroom shenanigans about 3:1. Have you forgotten about Larry Craig and Mark Foley already?

Liar

Honeygo Hal keep on going.. I think you got Joe a blowing in the wind. .. Here we go again and it's been four years? Still thinking our President Obama is a Muslim? Do you think we have to have the President produce another birth certificate too? Maybe D. Trump could have it framed in gold and give it to President Obama after November 2012 elections? I know the Vatican has some to offer. Or the hands that desecrated SACRED GROUNDS (I know they didn't pay no taxes on what they STOLED during the Gold Rush. Yeah! and they talk of faith (Catholics, Muslims, they might as well have all inclusions(Protestants, Baptist, Lutheran, Judaism, Hindu, Buddhism on and on.........), as this is what represents the country. Let us add immigrants because this is what the majority of the people residing in the U.S. are? Maybe once or twice removed. They were just lucky because policy had the doors open to let their ancestors in and in turn, to be BORN in the U.S and to be a citizen in this country. How little we remember and so often we forget. The elections that are forthcoming are not for the select few (as some feel) and the Presidential candidate should have the capacity to serve ALL PEOPLE not just one group of people............... I don't think the repulbs have it in their candidate... as Mr. Joe stated NO ONE MISSPEAKS..... LET The Pre-Elections Roll.. and may the Best Candidate who SERVES ALL the PEOPLE And for the PEOPLE.... REMAIN doing just that.
Justice

Wow Buck, had no idea you felt so strongly negative about both candidates!! I do sense that conventions will, down the road a bit, be a thing of the past. As for radical change that creates common ground..well that could be quite scary in the hands of a group hell bent on fundamentally changing our country and what we stand for. Hand it to them, and I can almost assure you that there will be common ground...there will be no other ground!! Their focus is straight on that finality!!

Yea, I know...really worry about the grandchildren and don't have time for either of these guys...They both lie...big time..not what the President is supposed to do, or allow to be done in my opinion. I don't normally share links , but this ones for you Honey Child... because I do care...http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/08/2012-us-elections-obamney-vs-rombama.html

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/08/2012-us-elections-obamney-vs-rombama.html

This my idea of the kind of radical change that's needed...I know, It's an Independent thinking, but I don't think voting in primaries is anywhere near enough at this point.
There is a difference between negative and realistic thoughts...I really am hopeful..

I agree, Buck. 100%.
The question is who's worse for the country. We all have our views.

Common Ground? When did this Country ever have COMMON GROUND? Or I should state whos COMMON GROUND? I do know the MINORITY NEVER had COMMON GROUND it was held by the MAJORITY (you know who that was or is) such bow-wow...down the tubes so don't vote. Study history, when did U.S. candidates not bash one another during elections? Their just following suit....from a long long time ago... REMEMBER?
Justice

Lorna said...
"Wasn't there a bit of unrest regarding the White House not welcoming Christian Prayer day, but welcoming an Islamic Prayer day?"

Link to story please?

Obama is a fraud and a pathological liar. The Koran says it is alright to lie to the infidels.

If Obama has indeed converted to Christianity, he would be subject to the death penalty. No one mistakes their faith when talking to others. NO ONE!

Radical revolution is in order...think about it..our country has never been in this kind of situation...poised for failure with very little hope. Hope a little hope can go a long way...

Joe,

Link backing up anything you said, please.

Sean, no need to back up widely known facts.

Joe - fail.

That would be the next convention where the Dems bring out their "3 letter word" jobs plan. To increase the abortion industry with more doctors and patients.

Oh Sean it is distressing to hear you use terms like "kooks"... As for the "link" you request, please note my statement/question: "..Wasn't there a bit of unrest regarding the White House not welcoming Christian Prayer day, but welcoming an Islamic Prayer day? Was never sure about the truth of it. " It is all well and good, from my standpoint, to question political motivation..but appreciate our freedom to hold these conventions. I won't bother to name the many, many countries and peoples of the world who can only wish for it. Don't make fun of it. I feel that is beneath you.

I fogot to add loons to the list of amazing characters in Tampa this week.

Lorna, when you aren't sure of the truth yet still throw it out there, I think they call that mudslinging.

Lorna, calling political parties names is not beneath me. It is as American as apple pie. It is nothing different then a political cartoonist does, only I do it in words. Just watch what the tin hatters are going to be calling the Dems this week.

"I fogot to add loons to the list of amazing characters in Tampa this week."
They already arrested a few of those Occupoopers with weapons strapped to their legs. Then Code Pinko in vagina costumes will be there. Don't understand why they are not protesting Obama's wars as they did with Bush.

Nothing is beneath Tully.

Joe, the GOP convention is going to make the Looney Tunes cartoons look like serious drama.

And then there's the irony of the Second Amendment concealed carry cowboys, yet there's a 7 square mile "no gun zone" around the convention center.

You Dems. Always finding a way to defend having sex with young boys in rest area restrooms. The Democrat base voters. Perverts even get to speak at the DNC!

As opposed to much more respectable airport bathroom, like Larry Craig.

Lorna, I don't know "very well" what you are even talking about. I don't watch Fox unless I need a good laugh while serious news stations are on commercial break. You can link me to the "very well" known "stories".

I don't know if this is right or not, but I heard Mitt Romney devours infants whole. Am I right? Did anyone else hear about Mitt Romney devouring infants?

I'm pretty sure that our Country has been infiltrated for many years by those that plan to attack us from within at some point....hundreds of thousands already here and still counting.The old protect our shores thought process has become antiquated at this point. If the world wide web were to be shut down our country would be brought to it's knees almost overnight, and then the attack would begin...
One of the reasons that I am a proponent of the Second Amendment.
There are those in very high places that make this type of prediction as well...
I used to call this type of thinking "conspiracy theory", but now that we have a Muslim President that doesn't seem to like America very much, the reality seems a little more clear to me. I am hopeful for a quick change to better our Country...
Cautiously optimistic though because I see more war stamped on Romney's cute big forehead...

Nothing like being referred to as playing Dumb by the Great Name Caller himself. Actually, I rarely refer to Snopes..have been told on occasion that they tell untruths. I just did however, and perhaps I misspoke. You do understand that term don't you darling. I heard it so much, thought it was fact. Never one to be a know it all, am ready to admit to the misspoken word, honey child. Will dig a little deeper and find out what that was really all about

Lorna, when someone says someone else is "playing dumb," that isn't exactly name calling. In this case it was more like describing what debate tactic you were using, according to the writer.

Perhaps I misspoke = I had no idea what I was talking about. Good job, Rep. Akin.

Have you ever heard of the 1st Amendment?

....didn't think so..

Don't be an idiot! Oh sorry, you are steve. Did I say anything about them not having the right to protest? NO I didn't. So your comment is a red herring and smells as bad as those vaginas in the pictures. Code Pink-o are fools and terrorist supporters.

Oh well...it is not easy to hold a reasonable conversation when suffering from snyaptic misfires. Honest FIFA...between you, Steve and Frank..I am beginning to think it is just a situation of "birds of a feather..." Certainly nothing for me to make fun of. Sorry guys!!

and Monsieur FIFA is head of the Nom De Plume Society...ha, ha, ha, gets to say lots of crap and take no responsibility for it. But, good for a laugh as we get a better picture of the mind set of the far left radical darlings. It can be enjoyable pushing their teeney, weeney little buttons and observing their teeney, weeney little brains go in "over drive!" Ooops, hope I did not offend anyone, honey child! :-)

Josey, just facts.

Joeblob - Duplicated from a post above - I know you get confused trying to read a post that's in the middle of other ones.

First things first - If I am "Honeygogal" or "Honeygal", you are JoeBlob - a sloppy one, at that. Did you pick up on that yet? I chose the "Akin" analogy to keep the improper words out of the Patch.

Your imagination is so limited. No, you don't put a windmill on your car, but maybe you drive an electric car charged up with power generated by wind - am I going too fast for you?

And yes, we will need petroleum for some time, but employing clean alternatives wherever we can (like powering the vehicles) will reduce our need for fossil fuels. Let me know if you need some pictures to better understand the philosophy.

Sorry Josey, not a child molester, but you as one who goes there usually is that pedophile. That's you Josey. You are sick.

Note to Patch readers - I have it on good authority that Joeblob has not responded in his normal quick manner because he is frantically searching all his right-wingnut web sites looking for one of them to give him his comebacks to questions he didn't expect.

Stay tuned for some sharp (not sharp-witted) comments as he gets them from Reply Central...

When they're a twinkle in their daddy's eye, so to speak.

I can't wait to hear Mitt rail against Obama for not sending enough federal aid to LA.

Link to miners story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/28/century-mine-romney-ohio-mandatory_n_1836674.html

I wanna be like George Carlin was when I grow up...

That is the best rebuttal I've heard.

Perhaps because a fetus can't sign Grover Norquist's pledge.

Yea, but she looked good and made a good delivery of hollowness..

Obama's led us out of Iraq, he's all but finished leading us out of Afghanistan. He kept us OUT of Libya despite cries from warhawks in Congress, the European community who have been sucking off the teat of our country for decades militarily, and Libyans themselves.

Romney was such an epic 'leader' not only did he do one term in Massachusetts, he did so horrible the subsequent Republican candidate got steamrolled in 2006:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_gubernatorial_election,_2006

I'm sorry Lorna, but outside of salvaging the Salt Lake Olympics, Mitt Romney's led nothing. He's nothing but a corporate business sycophant. All the money in the world couldn't buy him the nomination 4 years ago. He's won this nomination by default.

Again, I'm not suggesting the current President has been President of the generation, but to honestly suggest Romney would make this country better off then it is now, is quite simply in the eye of the beholder - and nothing remotely factually based.

I don't know of any other politician who waffles more then Romney has and does. Mitt Romney is the living, breathing representation of the shady politician, something our local Republican David Marks is nothing like.

Also, if I'm slow to respond on political threads going forward, it's intentional. I need to be more...ahhh ... judicious... about what I post about politically while I'm at work - until the election is over.
It's that time of year, and an occupational requirement of mine.

Summing up my views on our political future the next four years: Obama = meh, Romney = worse, all of Congress = terrible.

Romney is/was a good businessman, where the goals are maximum profits for investors. When you add in his thorough lack of taking ang holding a position on ANY major issue, he can't be trusted. He may actually be the better one to get the country out of the doldrums, but the winners will be big corporations, not the American people - see the post above about miners forced to attend events they don't agree with...

What we really need is an ambidextrous President for a real change to better our Country....the lefties and righties just keep screwin things up..

Like the mayor of London said, it's easy to hold the Olympics out in the middle of nowhere. Especially the winter Olympics.

Van Jones, self professed communist and Obama Green Job's Czar. FAILED!
Obama mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, card carrying communist.
"“I admire Russia for wiping out an economic system which permitted a handful of rich to exploit and beat gold from the millions of plain people ... As one who believes in freedom and democracy for all, I honor the Red nation.” – FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS, 1947

In his memoir, Barack Obama omits the full name of his mentor, simply calling him “Frank.” Now, the truth is out: Never has a figure as deeply troubling and controversial as Frank Marshall Davis had such an impact on the development of an American president. "

" And then the 3rd lesson and tip actually come from two of my favorite political philosophers. Mao Tse-tung and Mother Teresa, not often couple with each other, but the two people that I turn to most" Obama spokesperson Anita Dunn.

The Communist Party USA endorsed Obama.

Good point...

Matthews and his commentaries leave a lot to be desired, especially when a total picture is required. He and his cronies leaning in to the camera to give that forceful lead in of accusations..so tiresome of the darlings.

Wow Frank, what a racist comment. Any black not a Democrat is a token in the eyes of a true racist. No black can step off the democrat plantation in your eyes or they are something less than a person. they are just an object to you. A token. Seems the GOP are far more tolerant then you.

Interesting isn't it Tim. And now we hear from Steve, the "any body but the black guy" darling. Can't seem to get off his racial accusations whenever having an opportunity to utter the slightest opinion about anything.

Apologies Joe...my remarks "interesting isn't it.." were in response your post.

Why anyone would join a religion that claimed you had the mark of Cain until just recently is beyond me.

Oreos thrown at Michael Steel, classy!
Democrats have no room to talk about class. Or lack thereof. They lead the country in classless actions. Example, diminishing women to nothing but a vagina and protesting at the RNC. Stay classy Democrats.

Please Steve, if you are going to post a headline, don't you think you should post the entire thing? Or do you work for NBC?

"RNC Attendee **Allegedly** Threw Nuts At Black CNN Camerawoman, Said ‘This Is How We Feed Animals’"

Stay classy Steve.

Oreos were never thrown at Michael Steele. Lie Much?

And peanuts were never thrown. Lie much Steve?

And they leave out all those that did build that. Why?

Ya think??

Good old garbage LA Times media...can count on them to put a nasty face on everything that doesn't originate from their corner. So boring, so telling, so tiresome!!

Notice from ALL the LSM it is a racial thing since they cannot write anything positive about the man who they work for.

Peanuts were never thrown, lie much?

Media Matters? You may as well get advice on how to treat a woman form Ted Bundy.

Middle class are not screwed. Many are still middle class and many will go on to do better. Few stay in one economic class all their lives. Most move up at some point.

Have a feeling you aren't in it either JD. Your statement just doesn't have a ring of truth to it...more like a ring of anger.

Lorna, I think I am going to have to agree with the consensus there is something wrong with you.

My statement is actually beneficial to your supported party. I simply don't care who you elect as their basic platform will be the same. Protect my investment business and wealthy individuals like myself. If it's important to you, you probably aren't in the same income bracket.

The only certainty is both parties are going to make your older years rougher. No thrills, skimping medication, things like that.

When I first started out the best piece of advice I received from my first whale was the best. "You'll never worry about putting a D or an R at the end of your name when you have $ at the end of it."

"In lieu of airing speeches from former Democratic Rep. Artur Davis, a black American; Mia Love, a black candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Utah; and Texas senatorial hopeful Ted Cruz, a Latino American, MSNBC opted to show commentary anchored by Rachel Maddow from Rev. Al Sharpton, Ed Schultz, Chris Matthews, Chris Hayes and Steve Schmidt."

Instead they put on a real racist or 2 for your entertainment. They put on 2 who may be certifiably insane in crazy Matthews and Schultz. All for your entertainment.

i love it when they are so up front and center with their bias!! Gives everyone, who may have the slightest interest in who they really, really are, an absolute answer. They are useless!!! Especially the two Chris guys!!

So, what exactly was going on at Faux News at that time? No doubt MSNBC leans left, but Faux News does way more than "lean" right. And don't even get me started on wacko on-air personalities...

Lorna, Don't you have more Pointy Hats to make?

Coalition of Black Pastors Stand Against Obama's Position on Homosexual Marriage and say they Will Not Remain Silent While Obama and Homosexuals 'Hijack the Civil Rights Movement'.

These were not polled apparently. Nor these:
"Black Pastors Rally Against Obama Over Homosexual Marriage"
"President and founder, Rev. Williams Owens had this to say...

“The time has come for a broad-based assault against the powers that be that want to change our culture to one of men marrying men and women marrying women,” said Owens, in an interview Tuesday after the launch event at the National Press Club. “I am ashamed that the first black president chose this road, a disgraceful road.”

3,742 African-American pastors are reportedly involved in the effort.

“we are going to go nationwide with our agenda just like the president has gone to Hollywood.”"
"

If it's true and it may well be; although I'd think it were more like 5-10%; regardless it suggests one of two things; 1) blacks are racists or 2) they only do as told and have no ability to think for themselves. Either way; the idea that a demographic in it's entirety thinks exactly the same way doesn't exactly suggest that group has an ability to think in any intellectually comprehensive way. I wouldn't be so quick to crow about it.

Steve once again seems to be an NBC editor in his links.

"Of course, this doesn’t mean that no African-Americans will vote for the Romney-Ryan ticket..."

There's no question wher my vote is going, but I truly don't understand how the Rethugs think they can win: they alienate Black voters with the way they implement Voter ID laws; Push against women (except for the women who put starting their own business at the top of the list); and they alienate Latinos with their immigration stance. Seriously, in the 21st century, how do you expect to win by pushing ALL of those groups away?

"Justice Department signs off on Virginia voter ID law"
"Pennsylvania Court Upholds Voter ID Law"
"Supreme Court Upholds Voter Identification Law in Indiana "
"Georgia Voter-ID Law Upheld"

Why? Because it is nothing more than securing the vote for LEGAL voters.

I think you better tell your VP Biden that this is the 21st century and not the 20th.

I do not disagree with the concept of ID being required to vote. But the sneaky way the Rethugs implemented this makes it clear they are trying to tip the scales in their favor. Most of the folks affected don't watch the news or haunt the Patch all day long, and they will be caught out on Election Day. That is not lost on the Rethugs. So if you want to FAIRLY implement the law, provide a longer phase-in and/or make the first election under the law a "warning" - you know like the speed cameras and other such new requirements. Else you are making a blatant move to suppress the vote.

The Rethugs are for small government - except if you get pregnant or want to avoid getting pregnant. And OBTW, they want to establish (and presumably maintain) a database of names, addresses and photos of those that want to exercise their right to vote. Consistency, eh?

"Rethugs"? I never read further than words like that. I can listen to the kids on the playground if i wanted to hear that.

If that's what you want, Joeblob - besides, it works best for you when you mix with people at your own level.

Joeblob, I'll give you one and back off to "Repubs" from "Rethugs." If you get cranky over that, I'll evolve a little bit.

So you think about those "Occupoopers" and "Code Pinko" that you mentioned in this thread, eh? And be oh so careful with your spellling & grammar, so we all know when you just lapse or you mean it, okay?

Wow - 1,800 "Likes" - that should really change the election results, maybe if they all vote in Rhode Island...

You all would have a racial field day if 99% of all whites voted for the white man. You could let out all that pent up racism for weeks with that poll.

Steve, why resort to such venom toward older folks? Do you have parents who are included in that group of drugged stupid old white people? Resorting to lies and untruths will not win an election but you seem to have much desire to run on that.
So much for the great bringer together of people and hope and change and no red or blue states he ran on last time. Now it is divide and conquer. American of all stripes will not tolerate that.

I do wonder Steve, hy do you have a picture of a convicted tax cheater with Obama as your pic? I would think you didn't like tax cheaters much less convicted ones.

So you're saying Buck is a tax cheat Steve?

Joe, as I am the one who started conversations with Buck about the 16th amendment it would be fair that I answered your question.

Buck has stated that he believes the 16th amendment was never properly ratified. Buck has stated he pays all taxes he owes. Buck has stated he files returns stating it is an unlawful federal income tax. Buck very carefully does not state he refuses to pay federal income tax, but reading between the lines is not hard.

Buck has also stated that he participates in Barter systems where you trade services and products which are intended to avoid income taxes.

Is Buck a tax cheat, most likely in my opinion.

How can the IRS explain this case they lost?
" IRS Loses A Big One Memphis Pilot Acquitted Of Tax Evasion
Charged With Filing "False" W-4s"

"On Friday, a Memphis federal jury acquitted FedEx pilot Vernice Kuglin of six counts of felony Tax Evasion and Willful Failure to File tax returns.

Ms. Kuglin's attorneys, Tax Honesty Movement barristers Larry Becraft and Robert G. Bernhoft, told reporters that Kuglin was indicted seven months ago and had refused to plead the case out for a lesser sentence. During her testimony Kuglin testified that since 1995, she had sent numerous letters to the IRS requesting that they inform her of what law required her to pay the Individual Income Tax. To this day, she has not received an answer.

At 1:30 Friday afternoon, the jury returned not guilty verdicts on all counts.

After the jury had been excused the U.S. Attorney reportedly demanded that the Judge order the defendant to file her forms, pay her taxes and obey the law. The Judge reportedly replied "Sir, I don't work for the IRS."

The case is: U.S. District Court, Western District of Tennessee (Memphis) # 03-CR-20111, USA v. Kuglin.

The news story below comes from the August 9th edition of the Memphis daily newspaper, The Commercial Appeal:"

Fifa - you are aware that most often barter involves exchange of service for service - for instance a plumber may exchange a bathroom replumb for landscaping assistance. Seldom is this about retail exchanges...as such those services are not taxable even if it involves non-barter hiring. So you base this allegation upon your "feelings" and "reading between the lines" and in this case...once again just making up stuff.

Karl, I am not a fool. Legal barter systems result in 1099s and are very taxable.

Joe, I have no respect at all for outright deceivers.

"Another listed star, Vernice Kuglin, was acquitted in her criminal trial for tax evasion in August 2003.[6] This means she was not found guilty of a willful intent to evade income taxes. (A conviction for tax evasion requires, among other things, proof by the government that the defendant engaged in one or more affirmative acts of misleading the government or of hiding income.) Kuglin's acquittal did not relieve her of liability for the taxes.[7] Kuglin entered a settlement with the government in 2004 in which she agreed to pay over $500,000 in taxes and penalties.[8] On April 30, 2007, the Memphis Daily News reported that Kuglin's Federal tax problems continued with the filing of a notice of Federal tax lien in the amount of $188,025. The Memphis newspaper also stated that Kuglin has "given up her fight against paying taxes, according to a Sept. 10, 2004, Commercial Appeal story."[9]"

Making poop up Karl, you don't know what you are talking about.

http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420.html

Fifa...looking through my contracts for work done around the house - roof, gutters, etc...sorry no taxes involved. I know you like to throw around accusations as they suit you however you have zero evidence that this person is skirting taxes. To object to certain taxes does not equate to refusing or not paying them.

So Karl, all of a sudden your tune has changed? Barter income is as I said, isn't it? You accused me of making stuff up. Oops you were wrong. Whether Buck or Romney is a tax cheat involves examination of their returns, doesn't it? Which one we will get to see first?

What the Patch Pigeons fail to realize is that anonymity does not give the the ability to break the law. Committing liable opens up a new arena that will challenge Patch, Aol first, in pursuit of justice for the intentional damage that they attempt to cause, or have caused already. Getting names becomes a matter of law in this arena...
These liable, written accusations are being carefully documented...

FIFI tells many lies, he claims to be a CPA but knows nothing about accounting...
He's a certified Patch Poo boy at best...

Buck, you are a common thief. Everyone else has to pick up your slack. Felon.

This is what you do FIFI, poor little Patch Pigeon acting like a pooed on little school boy....we understand..

Agree!

No, it only happens to you - LOL!

I have to log on if I leave Patch, then come back, but just about always get a "Pending Approval"

Happens to me all the time...one of many flaws with Patch...

You finally admit Sharpton is a lying rat?
Do you really think she would such a thing and be like $harpton? you do not have any respect for black women do you Steve?

What has she "fabricated"?

Sharpton NEVER fabricated anything he has done has he?

Keep showing your racism Steve. It is apparent you have issues with them.

What has she "fabricated" as you accused her of Steve?

Steve you say "She isn't the brightest bulb' yet fail to give an example of why? Empty accusations seems to be all you have.

No answers forthcoming Steve?

I don't know. What?

Also a perverted interest in another man's underpants.

An interest when the person wearing the Magical Underpants is running for President!

He's the only hope for the racist "Anybody But the Black Guy" crowd.

Steve, your glass house is a beauty.

Steve you never answered "What has she "fabricated" as you accused her of Steve?

"Steve you say "She isn't the brightest bulb' yet fail to give an example of why? Empty accusations seems to be all you have."

Looking good!!! Amazing anyone watching MSNBC at all..but they do have a certain following along with CNN, don't they...mmmmm

I watched a little of Two Ton Tony's speech but after about the 12th lie I turned it off.

I have an early morning meeting tomorrow so tonight I think I will play the Clay Aitkin drinking game while watching the GOP Convention. You have to drink everytime you see a black person in the crowd.

Steve, you are repugnant.

If you ever wrote anything that was even half intelligent, it would be a major shock. You can't actually believe this stuff you write? I've always thought you were just an imp or trouble maker trying to get people to respond, but since you have come to the realization that Obama will be leaving the Whitehouse shortly, you have lost what little mind you may have once had. If being Robert Armstrong wasn't good enough for you, why have you turned into this creature?

Like two peas in a pod

How long have you been a Patch reader / poster? "Who is Robert Armstrong?" Did you smoke too much today?

And I am a proud member of the American Legion. Are you? Do you even qualify?

Paul W. Ross, Steve says you're a racist listed on SPLC site.

SPLC... LOL. You sound like David Harlian

Steve will be linking the CPUSA soon.

Steve, those panes of glass in your house are being broken one by one from the inside. Stop before you are completely exposed.

Didn't you say Steve how bad a black Mormon woman marrying a white man was when you were talking about Mia Love?

Yes I did JoeBlob,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPGE6CzZ_84&feature=related

Poowr wittle victim...More panes smashed Stevie.

Any attempt of reasonable debate with Steve, FIFI, Frank is like playing chess with a pigeon Joe. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon will walk all over the board, crap on it , knock over the pieces and the strut around with it's chest puffed out as though it was the winner.....hence the term Patch pigeons...this is what they do, they do not know anything else...

Buck, you are a tax cheat and are not man enough to admit it, why?

This is what you do FIFI, it's the best that you are capable of, I understand.
It can't be easy bein a Patch Pigeon...silly little coward...