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Brochin: City Needs State Police Presence

UPDATED (5:06 p.m.)—Sen. Jim Brochin said Tuesday that Baltimore County residents don't feel safe visiting Baltimore and called on Gov. Martin O'Malley and Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake to use Maryland State Police to patrol the Inner Harbor.

The Towson Democrat made his comments weeks after Del. Pat McDonough, a Middle River Republican, called on O'Malley and Rawlings-Blake to deal with "black youth mobs" and declared the Inner Harbor a no travel zone.

"My constituents are talking about this and they say they don't feel safe going down there and they aren't going down there," Brochin said, adding that he disagreed with McDonough's racially-charged presentation but agreed that something needs to be done to make the area safer.

"Everyone knows that most of the people in these incidents are black youth but you don't have to say 'black youth mobs," Brochin said. "You only inflame the issue. The part of [McDonough's] issue that is solid is that the city resources can only be stretched so far and there are only so many police officers they can hire."

Brochin said O'Malley and Rawlings-Blake should put together a task force and look at the idea of using state police in the Inner Harbor area during the tourist season.

"All you have to do is look at the video from St. Patrick's Day and you'll see 100 youths running and wilding down the street," Brochin said.

The issue is one of importance to county residents, according to Brochin.

"I'm out door-knocking in my district and constituents in my old and new district are talking about this and saying they don't feel safe going down there and they're not going," Brochin said. "Everyone knows the people of Baltimore County are one of the engines that drive the economy in Baltimore City."

Brochin said he and Councilmen Todd Huff and David Marks, two Republicans, worked together to solve issues related to problems with youths near the Towson Town Center.

O'Malley and Rawlings-Blake are dismissing the issue because it comes from McDonough, according to Brochin.

"That put me over the top. Their response is nothing," said Brochin.

A spokesman for Rawlings-Blake declined to comment for this post.

North Baltimore Patch Local Editor Adam Bednar contributed to this report.

Joan Wood

1:30 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

I agree. The City has become not too safe these days. While I do not in any way claim their behavior is acceptable.........where are the parents?? And where do these kids have to go?? Most Rec Centers are closed.......if the Mayor would spend her time and the City's resources on finding alternatives for these kids....perhaps this would not be happening.......but no....lets promote a "Grand Prix"........How about we promote the kids in Baltimore City for a change!!

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Tim

1:50 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Promoting kids doesn't grease the palms of ...

David Taylor

2:04 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Right... so it's not "get going on schools/parks/jobs" or cooperate with the city on perceptions of crime, but rather hire police... to do what, round up the "black youths" so that tourists from Baltimore County can feel safer eating at Hooters?

Seriously Jim? How about you put some hard information behind your "County vs City" rhetoric... I understand that you want to address the fears that some of your county constituents have of "black youths" - but is deploying the State Troopers in Harborplace really solving anything? If you have a plan with substance, something beyond pandering to racial fears and fostering this City vs County nonsense, I'm all ears... but otherwise, I think you just jumped on-board the McDonough crazy train.

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Able Baker

11:50 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Pointing out all the problems that are someone else's responsibility is a lot easier than working on the problems that are Sen. Brochin's responsibility.

Buzz Beeler

3:19 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Been out on 695 lately. The noise from the racing bikes is unbearable and the numbers and speeds are unbelievable. I never see the MSP. It used to be they had three troopers for all of 695 and 83.

I wonder if the Co. and the MSP still have that misguided agreement over jurisdiction.

Although I see a huge problem in the city, check your resources before committing them.

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Harry Callahan

7:50 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Here is the solution for Baltimore CIty's problems. Do what I do...I never go there. Since I retired in January 2004, I have been within the Baltimore City Limits exactly 1 time and that was for 39 minutes. My feet were on the ground in Baltimore City for a total of 9 minutes. A neighbor (who had moved from Baltimore City a few years before) had the misfortune of having their daughter pass away at age 39 after a long illness. She taught school at a parochial school on Falls road and they decided to have her viewing at a funeral parlor near the school so that her students could pay their respects. It took me 15 minutes to drive there. I got out of my car and entered the incredibly crowded funeral parlor. Signed the visitor's book. Said hello to my neighbor and his wife and gave them our condolences, then quickly left. Another 15 minute drive to the safety of Baltimore County and that was it.

Even though I have a permit to carry a concealed firearm, I never enter the City under any circumstances. If it were not for the fact that our children and grandchildren live in Baltimore County we would move full time to our home in Kentucky.

Having the MSP patrol Baltimore City would be a colossal waste of time because none of the "at risk youth" who might be arrested by them would never receive any meaningful punishment.

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Able Baker

11:48 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

You'd think someone named after Dirty Harry wouldn't be quite so fearful.

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Harry Callahan

9:33 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Abel,

Son, you just don't understand how life works. If I go downtown and one of these "at risk youth" decides to attack me and I kick their ass or even find it necessary to draw my legally carried firearm and waste them, then my life will change forever. Their family will appear on the local media along with throngs of their many friends telling everyone "what a nice person" the thug is/was and how they were "just getting their life together" when thhis "unfortunate incident happened". My legal bills will rival the national debt as I try to protect myself from a court system that favors the "rights" of these scumbags to prey on law-abiding citizens rather than protecting my rights. Don't believe this? Give George Zimmerman a call in Florida (a state that has a strong stand your ground law).

No sir, Abel, I have no desire to put myself, and everything I worked for during my entire law-abiding life in jeopardy just to defend myself in the God-forsaken sewer known as Baltimore City.

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Able Baker

10:56 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

You appear to have spent a lot of time on your elaborately constructed fantasy. Kudos to you.

J Brightman

9:33 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

There is absolutely no reason to go into the city. And if you have not noticed the city is encroaching into the county, be careful. The only way to deal with this is to follow Florida and Arizona and relax the carry laws. The youth of the city would think twice if they even thought the person they were about to commit a crime on was carrying a weapon. Politicians take note RELAX THE CCW LAWS !!!

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Dkennylee

10:23 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

The county ever walk down eastern ave. In essex at night. Not to safe anymore

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David Taylor

10:31 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Sorry, but carrying a concealed weapon won't make anyone any less of a coward or any less of a racist. You can't protect yourself from your own irrational fears that way and you can't avoid them by hiding in "the safety of Baltimore County." I'm in the city all the time and I never have any serious concerns about the "youth of the city" or any "at risk youth" - but then, I'm an adult.

It's time we let go of this fallacy that crime is about "black youths" who only exist inside a line on a map, or that you are any safer on one side of that line than you are on the other. We can address the real issues head-on and without prejudice, or we can choose to ignore them - but let's stop stoking fears or stroking political points, it isn't constructive at all...

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Harry Callahan

8:29 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

David,

Glad to hear that you are an "adult" since it is likely that you will have adequate health insurance, income protection insurance, and (should the worst happen) adequate life insurance to protect yourself and your family from the kind of scum that are now running rampant in Baltimore City.

David, what you don't seem to understand is that the difference between Baltimore City and Baltimore County is that the juries seated in Baltimore City continue to subscribe to the "at risk youth" myth and both they and the legal system in Baltimore City abide by the theory that if only there were enough "programs" for these "at risk youth" then crime would go down and by some miracle these "at risk youth" would suddenly develop self-respect, acceptance of personal responsibility, and a respect for the lives and property of others. In Baltimore County we have a police department that does not coddle this type of person, a prosecutor's office that actively prosecutes "at risk youth" or anyone else who commits a crime, and jurists who will not tolerate this kind of behavior. The "at risk youth" and other career criminals who exist in Baltimore City know this and that is why they avoid Baltimore County as much as we avoid Baltimore City. Don't believe me? Then on your next trip into Baltimore City ask some of these lowlifes why they don't go into Baltimore County to commit their crimes. And report back to us (if you survive the process of interviewing your pals).

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Ryan

8:40 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Sorry buddy, but the “irrational fears” are highlighted every night on the news. I think the Baltimore news should really only announce shootings if there are less then two, or if there are more then five. Really it is not news if it happens every day. It’s like getting excited the trash man came on Saturday morning, that is not news. If he did not show up on Saturday, that would be news.

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Buck Harmon

10:14 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

I think you may be on to something there Harry...

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Able Baker

12:01 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Except there's no actual proof that this is the case. Some right-winger decided that feel-good self esteem programs have cause the downfall of society because they're an easy target that doesn't require them to solve any real problems. Are there problems with Baltimore juries? Probably. But there are also problems with Baltimore police, prosecutors and defense attorneys. Should juries convict a shaky case when their instructions say otherwise?

21093

8:17 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Shame on the parents of these children who lack the responsibility to teach them appropriate behavior and allowing them to run freely. This is an obvious discipline problem and it stems from the terrible parenting and poor education system, which leads to many skipping school or dropping out and also the huge crime from people of such a young age. I hate going in the city for this reason and I am terrified something bad is going to happen to me whenever I am. Call me a racist or whatever you want but it is 100% true. Many of my friends and acquaintances have been victims of serious crimes and it has made me angry that something hasnt been done and our political leaders are more worried about someone making a racial slur rather than fixing our failing system. Increased police presence is needed but also more options for these kids for positive activities rather than just running freely in the city and getting themselves in trouble.

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Philip Fryer

8:57 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

White racists should stay out of the city until they shed their racism.

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RARE MARYLAND INDEPENDENT

10:26 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Philip - the good news for you is that white racists are staying out of the city. Along with white non racists, asians, latinos, and blacks who don't want to be a statistic.

5:30 on a summer evening downtown is a ghost town.

Hope that makes you happy.

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Able Baker

11:45 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

The Central Business District is a ghost town, just like most other cities. Ever been to Wall Street after 5?

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Tim

11:54 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Philip: it's not racism if it's factual. Let me give two scenarios.

Example 1
- 70% of the problems downtown are caused by youth of color.
- 30% of the problems downtown are caused by caucasian youth.
Adult White Population Conclusion: Black youth are causing problems downtown.

Example 1 is racism. The exact stuff I abhor. Racism - and it goes in both directions my friend - is nothing more then hatred mixed in with ignorance. It's sad, a blight on our society.

Here's Example 2:

- 95+% of the problems downtown are caused by youth of color.
- less then 5% of the problems downtown are caused by caucasian youth.

Adult White Population Conclusion: Black youth are causing problems downtown.

Example 2 is not racism my friend. It's reporting virtually undebatable facts.

I'll give you another embarassing example of racism I see on Patch (Perry Hall area) here. We occasionally have a rash of reported crime here. Typically, I eread this crap:
- get rid of the bus line to White Marsh Mall
- Oh, its that section 8 housing again!
- I'm sure it was a "person of color" that did this.

Then, when the followup shows that over 50% of the criminals (again local in the area crime) are caucasian...you don't hear anything from these racists.
Again, this is an embarassment on our soceity.

Just my .02.

Gregg Roberts

9:09 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Google actor Bill Cosby's comments about black youth culture in our cities. Fear of the City and ''black youth mobs'' isn't about racism. Residents of Perry Hall include every race and ethnic background. It's about a real problem in the city that yes affects black youth and according to Cosby is related to the culture there that impacts black youth. Baltimore City is a horrifying place. I brought European tourists through Baltimore City and some were literally crying when we made a wrong turn about 2 blocks from the Inner Harbor. There are needles everywhere, people that come at you from nowhere, prostitutes, drug pushers, sounds of gone fire -- all at once and no exaggeration. Police presence is needed and so is tougher punishments. But the police presence is needed to protect innocent civilians. Chaos can not be allowed to continue.

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Buck Harmon

10:23 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

In a police state, police create half of the chaos. If the current police force were to commit to the focus of learning about the core of the perceived gang activity I'm pretty sure that a substantial reduction would occur...without extra funds, but with more fundamentals... I think that maybe some corruption in the current police force would be surfaced as well...maybe that's why things seem to have gotton this far out of hand...

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Tim

11:53 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Gregg makes a great point here.

Trust me, if the city was heavily populated with caucasian youth mobs causing the same kind of chaos, these same people would still be avoiding the city like the plague.

The race issue is secondary here. People in suburbia aren't favoring one set of "youth mob" over another. We don't want any of it.

Anneka Jameson

9:31 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

I moved to Baltimore County less than a year ago and I've gone into Baltimore exactly twice. Once at night for dinner with a friend and during the day I went to Fort McHenry. I can only assume that Mayor Rawlings-Blake is running the city in the way that she sees best and non-Baltimore City residents need to either accept that or find other ways to amuse and entertain themselves. There is no need for outside authority figures to encroach on the mayor's management style.

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CerahAnd

5:53 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

There is certainly reason for input from Baltimore county and other counties when a portion of our taxes go to fund city programs. These issues are the issues of every citizen that pays taxes, because a portion of those taxes get paid to the city. As citizens, we need to pay attention to what happens in Baltimore city because having the city "fail" greatly impacts the potential for statewide revenue.

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Spring Heeled Jack

6:18 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

If you have any sort of political education you will know that every county is inter-related to its neighboring county. Baltimore County now a days spends a lot of money to have officers directly stationed on the city/county lines to patrol and arrest the thugs transporting drugs and stolen cars into/out of the city. (Examples: Belair Rd, Harford Rd, Philadelphia Rd, Rt. 40, Perring Parkway, York Rd, I-83, Eastern Ave to just name a few in the north/east. These patrol cars are there to stop drug trafficking and stolen property and stolen cars.
Also the State of Maryland pays more tax money to the City of Baltimore then any other county throughout the state. That my friend is everyone's tax money! Facts and Education pays!

Spring Heeled Jack

11:06 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

If you really look at the politically correct nature of the past 20 years; you will find a direct correlation to Baltimore City youth (majority black) and the rise in crime and youth running uncontrolled and wild in the city.

During the early 1990's there was a huge shift in education and what is taught and how it is taught. Also over the years we saw on tv and heard all this pc crap that was aimed at boosting up the black culture: "African American" instead of Black American, "Kings and Queens" of the world instead of normal humans just like the rest of us, "We built America at the hands of slavery", "We are owed", "Black youth are victims of society and white culture", "Black youth are just trying to get by so crime and gangs is an unfortunate necessity to support their families", "Black Americans are unjustly targeted by police", "Black youth are misunderstood", "If black youth had parks and basketball courts everything would be fine", ect ect. ALL of these PC messages have brainwashed all Americans that are not Black to feel sorry and ashamed (White Guilt).

Meanwhile; laws have changed to assist criminals and limit the ability of police to do there job. These youth now feel bulletproof and they are never to blame. To assist the problem, their parents seem to no longer care about what their children are doing and could careless about teaching true morals and values; instead, the parents raise their children to act as if they are victims and entitled.

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Able Baker

11:42 am on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

20 years ago was the height of the crack epidemic. Stop making up nonsense about political correctness being the root of any real problem.

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Spring Heeled Jack

6:09 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Crack is the least of the issues that caused the issues. Stop listening to rappers trying to make sense (excuses) for a broken culture. I lived in the city in the 80's in a predominately black neighborhood. Crack was NOT a serious issue. Crack became another PC excuse for failure of a culture. Get yours facts straight.

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Able Baker

10:59 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

If you're honestly saying that crack had a minimal effect on the inner city, I can't argue with you. Once you're that divorced from reality, there's no point in discussing it.

Terry

2:22 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

We don't need another committee or expensive lunch and then wait 6 months for an answer. The city was dead after the riots in the 60's. Downtown was always busy with shoppers, you could walk around at night and get a corned beef sandwich at 2:00am on Lombard St. After the riots people left and businesses followed. When you drive through the City today it looks like a bombed out shell similar to WWII. The government workers on Lombard Street who work in the Fallon Bldg get robbed on their lunch hour for over 20 years. Someone suggested over 10 years ago to bring in the National Guard, but that was shot down. Igo into the City once in awhile and the I get the hell out of Dodge. I went to England in 79 and the British called the US the wild wild west. What can I say.

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Grace B.

7:00 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

We no longer go into the city. We haven't been to a Ravens or Orioles game in years. Nothing could make us ever want to venture into the city again. I would love to go to the Hippodrome or the Lyric to see a show now and then. But, we just won't do it. The last time we went to the Lyric, there was a shooting about three blocks away, occurring at about the same time we were walking to our car. The State Police aren't going to help the situation. I don't think the National Guard could do much to help the situation. Baltimore City is dying a slow, agonizing death; and taking much of the surrounding counties along with it.

That being said, we very rarely venture into the White Marsh Mall area either. I had a close call there a few weeks ago when someone tried to get into my car. It is quickly going the way of Baltimore City.

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moe green

7:29 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

The hoods in the city that breeds and bleeds will eat the troopers alive.

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PMM49

9:44 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

I love that all you folks who say that never go into the City, or try to avoid it, claim such knowledge about what goes on there. My wife and I frequent many areas of the city when we go out to dinner, to festivals, movies, and other various events and we have yet to have a problem. I'm not sure how much time Senators Brochin or McDonough spend there. We are downtown or at Belvedere Square or on the Avenue in Hampden just about every week. As recently as this past Saturday night, we had dinner in Harbor East, walked around the area after dinner and lived to tell about it. Didn't see any "gangs" of roving youths of any persuasion, just lots of folks of all ages having a good time and enjoying themselves.

Brochin and McDonough, and the citizens they represent would be well served if they would return their focus to the Districts and their problems. They clearly lack a true understanding of the reality of the situation. The idea that the State Police have the resources to add downtown Baltimore to their responsibilities is laughable. They are stretched to the limit as it is.

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CharmCityLights

8:56 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Baltimore City has real problems; no one can deny that. With that said, these politicians from the county have no standing to talk about them. Their only concern seems to be about the harbor. Well, I hate to break it to them, but the harbor is the least of any city resident's concerns. It would be great if the city could get some help from the state for public safety. But if state troopers were to be called in, they should be sent to Baltimore's neighborhoods, not to a fading tourist attraction which has never succeeded as the economic engine it was touted to be. Brochin and McDonough want their constituents to feel safe walking around the harbor, but in McDonough's case at least, that seems to be an impossibility. Apparently, the mere sight of a crowd of black folks is enough to leave him quivering in fear. I don't doubt that many of his constituents are the same. Obviously there have been some worrying incidents down at the harbor in the last few years, but I don't believe that he witnessed anything. I mean, did he call the cops? Did he take any immediate action? No, he waited a month, and then decided to slag off the whole city.

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CharmCityLights

8:57 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Frankly, it's not his words that were racist. There have been some incidents which match his description, though as I've said, I don't believe he witnessed anything. What does strike me as racist, is the narrow scope of his and Brochin's concern. Baltimore had 197 murders last year. The victims of those murders were overwhelmingly African American, and overwhelmingly, they had criminal records. Yet all these people in the county, quake in fear at the very idea of entering the city. I live here, I travel widely throughout the Baltimore, and while street smarts are important in any urban area, I have never had a problem. Look at the statistics. Look at the Sun's murder map. If you are white and aren't involved with drugs, you are as safe in the city as in most suburban jurisdictions. So if we are going to deploy state police resources to the city, let's use them to combat real problems. Let's use them to make the city safer for everyone, rather than to allay the paranoia of suburbanites who aren't comfortable being in the minority for once.

CharmCityLights

8:59 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Finally, I find this idea--perpetuated here by Brochin--that the city is oh so dependent on county residents, completely laughable. It's the other way around. The truth of the matter is, half of Baltimore's problems stem from the fact that so many people work here, while living and paying taxes in the county. What we need, more than the state police, more that the piddling amounts that suburbanites spend here on Friday and Saturday nights out, is a commuter tax. Those funds could be used to lower the city's property tax rate, to fix the schools, and to address public safety, all of which would help to make Bmore more attractive to prospective residents.

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Buck Harmon

9:49 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

If you had a real name I'd nominate you for mayor...

Spring Heeled Jack

10:49 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

So many people throwing around "your racist" if you speak up against an obvious and true fact. This is the politically correct fools that have no insight or defense to the honest facts here, so they play the race card. I want to make a point to all of those people calling "us" responsible, hard working, moral, and value driven tax paying citizens... racists.
1. I am a middle class, law abiding, honest, hard working, respectful, loving father and husband, volunteer in the community, and never even considered committing a crime; in fact, I have on many occasions been a Good Samaritan when I saw a crime or person in distress and I helped out. The majority of people whom I have helped in distress over the years have been black women and black children.
2. I hate white supremacy! I hate racism! I hate serious criminals! I dis-like white trash druggies and abusive people! I dis-like people who lie and deceive when it is obvious they know they are doing it! And also I dis-like mobs of black youth that run wild in the streets for many years now with one agenda; to cause fear, panic, and to break the law! Racism has nothing to do with telling the truth!

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Able Baker

11:00 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Are some of your best friends black too?

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Harry Callahan

11:12 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Ronn,

You are right on target. The fact of the matter is this. If you have a container that holds 1,000 balls and the balls are of two colors, black and white. If you dip into that container of 1,000 balls and draw out a sample (providing that the balls are thoroughly mixed) then the sample you will get will match the ratio of black to white balls (if 70% of the balls are black and 30% of the balls are white then a sample taken of 100 balls taken at random will be 70 black balls and 30 white balls). This is a simple statistical fact.

Now, suppose that all of the balls in the sample represent all of the criminals running around in Baltimore CIty (not the normal, hard-working, law-abiding residents, just the criminals) then you will find that 70% of the criminals are black and 30% are white. The problem is that even if the City was able to round up 100% of the criminals in Baltimore (all of the black, white, brown, yellow, and all other colors) they would not and are not doing a good job of prosecuting and punishing them. This is why the City is in the shape it's in now.

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Spring Heeled Jack

11:31 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Able. You will love this! Yes, two of best friends are black!They are both from the UK with amazing children! They were raised properly with a "you are not a victim approach" and "never blame anyone else for your misdoings or losses". So I am assuming you next say that my responsible, hard working, educated black friends are "Uncle Tom's"? (Democrats hate successful black males that are not PC or motivated by the "I am a victim classical stance").
Able. Remember when Jessie Jackson got caught on tape saying very derogatory things about Obama during the Presidential Race? That was because Obama at that time was preaching that black people need to take 100% responsibility for their lives, actions, children, and teaching morals to their children. Funny, eh? Thats your guy. Don't you agree with Obama on that one?

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Chief

12:35 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Able - Brilliant response ... is this how you defend your position on all issues?
Ronn - thanks for presenting a 'real' prospective on the issue!

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Spring Heeled Jack

2:12 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Chief: This is how all individuals respond when they have no foundation of facts, sense of realism or reason. (I know you knew that... but throwing that out their for the others that don't get it.)
BTW: Able and his brainwashed cronies would die if they knew my race, culture, religion, and position in society.
I am sure these "fellow bloggers" will angle this falsely to make the standard, stereotypical statements that brainwashed liberals say; BUT, they would be very, very wrong.
Per example: Able says, "Are some of your best friends black too?"
These programed, wealthy, black leaders, rappers, and comedians have advanced this very statement for two decades now. Obviously, Weak and Wrong and Conveying the Race Card to a PC advantage!

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Able Baker

3:56 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

That's actually not correct. The odds of getting exactly 70 is pretty low, like 9%. Look up binomial distribution. That's basic *probability*, not statistics. It depends on whether you're replacing the balls after each draw, but suffice it to say you don't know what you're talking about.

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Able Baker

4:09 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Yes, yes, best friends are black, foreign blacks are not like American blacks, entitlement culture, Jesse Jackson namecheck, I don't see race. Are you just filling out the upper middle class white guy talking about race bingo card? I'm surprised there was no Bill Cosby reference.

The easy thing about blaming culture for a societal problem is that you don't have to do anything about it except complain. Those darn rappers! This is all their fault! Nevermind the fact that blacks are arrested and convicted for possession related drug offenses more often than whites, despite a much lower level of drug use. If it's *only* culture that's the problem, then you get to wash your hands of it. How convenient.

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Spring Heeled Jack

6:11 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

I pray for you Able. You lack facts, non-biased education and the ability to see the world as it is (without shaded glasses) and you suffer from serious guilt or victimized teachings.
Keep playing the race card my uninformed friend. The rest of us will live an honest, tax-paying, crime free and real life, telling it as it is.
As I said... Able, time for you to find another blog to pollute with your biased, slanted, hate pandering, agenda! Bye Bye! Go away buddy! You have no game (but the race card). LOL!

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Spring Heeled Jack

6:19 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

WAIT! "ABLE"...
If there were a local debate on the issue; would you attend to debate the topics? I guarantee that I would attend! You would probably make excuses and bail out due to illness or to....

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Able Baker

9:11 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

And you suffer from a weird parochial worldview that allows you to make sweeping generalizations based on skin color and ignore real issues in the government and criminal justice system. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Spring Heeled Jack

11:00 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

3. In 2008, a girl (22 yo) I knew was brutally beaten with a brick over her head in broad daylight in Charles Village. Why? Because 5 black teens were saying sexually explicit things to her on a bus stop and trying to get her to have sex with them in an alley. She ignored them. They started making very racist comments to her (as a witness also saw). Then they smashed her over the head with a brick repeatedly while yelling racial epitaphs at her. She was hospitalized for months. Today she has brain damage and those pieces of crap were never caught! It received a very brief headline on the news.
4. Of course, the famous robbery and beating of an innocent Canton man by a group of black teens (he was in a coma and later died). Then the racial beating of a young Asian man in Federal Hill by a group of black teens (which dozens of witness' watched and reported that is was purely racism). And the racial motivated beating of a white woman and her disabled child on the light rail while she taking her daughter to the JHU for treatment (the mob was a dozen black girls yelling racial names as they beat them both). Last year the 4th of July murder of a white out of state tourist father by a group of black thugs. The most current racially motivated beating of a young white man on St. Patrick's Day by the now infamous 200+ mob of black youth running wild causing fear, panic, terrorism, and crimes. These are to just name a select few of these black youth racial mob beating!!!

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Spring Heeled Jack

11:11 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

5. My father, a 67 year old lifelong small business owner in Baltimore City was beaten by a black teen while others stood outside and watched. There was no motivation but simply selected him because his was white old, thin and easy target for their humor. Luckly, my father was ok. But now he has to lock the doors to his business and now has a loaded handgun nearby.
This my PC friends is not a one time thing! This is a major growing issue that must be addressed! I am assuming because you all feel one incident here and there it is acceptable? If that is what you are saying then you think its ok to be a victim with no recourse for the thugs.
I will agree to this... If there were one or two mob type racial beatings in Baltimore City over the past 5 years... it would be very wrong and criminal, yet it would be considered a rare occurrence. BUT this is not the issue! There have been dozens of black youth mobs racially profiling and attacking innocent citizens. This has been an issue for years, but it has been covered up.
Next time one of you PC fools open their mouths think this first... are you defending the criminals? or are you asking the innocent victims how they felt? You can sit back and preach your PC nonfactual point of view, but when or if you or a family member becomes a victim, I guess we should just sit back and blame you for being in the wrong place.

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M. Sullivan

1:25 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Excellent posts, Ronn. Too bad it will be ignored by those who want to keep their heads in the sand. Local and Federal governments perpetuate these crimes by unequal application of hate crimes laws. Did even one of the examples you gave get prosecuted as a hate crime? I doubt it. Even though these types of crimes are happening all across the country, most of the media, through omission, and the government through inaction allow it to continue unexposed and unpunished. The Baltimore City government is more interested in covering over the problem with marketing campaigns and the stupid car race than solving it. However, like a house with a termite infestation, the foundation image of Baltimore as some great, civilized city will eventually collapse. Welcome to the 8th most dangerous city in the U.S. (according to US News & World Report, Feb. 2011)

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Able Baker

4:12 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

No one's defending the criminals, we're just pointing out that their blackness isn't related to their criminality. You seem to believe that every black on white crime is racially motivated. Why is that?

Spring Heeled Jack

2:15 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

We need a public debate! Come on Perry Hall and local Papers... lets do it!

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Edward V tindel

12:39 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

this politician must not know the history of the state police effect in Baltimore city,check your history


people have short memories.the last time the state police assisted the bcpd,they were caught up in corruption on the block.im surprised, no one remembers the day the state police raided the block,got caught breaking the law with the strippers on the block.why would you want them to come back..The Sun reported Tuesday that three undercover officers are under investigation by state police internal affairsdetectives. According to interviews with workers on The Block and with state police, two officers solicited a prostitute in one of the bars and another spent the night in a hotel with a female bartender who was married to an owner of a bar targeted in the investigation. 
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Edward V tindel

12:41 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

people have short memories.the last time the state police assisted the bcpd,they were caught up in corruption on the block.im surprised, no one remembers the day the state police raided the block,got caught breaking the law with the strippers on the block.why would you want them to come back..The Sun reported Tuesday that three undercover officers are under investigation by state police internal affairsdetectives. According to interviews with workers on The Block and with state police, two officers solicited a prostitute in one of the bars and another spent the night in a hotel with a female bartender who was married to an owner of a bar targeted in the investigation. 
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the sate police were so bad that all the charges against the people on the block were dropped

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