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Police: Bullying Not A Factor In Perry Hall High Shooting

Police revealed new details in the Monday morning shooting at Perry Hall High School.

UPDATE (1:20 p.m., Aug. 28)—Investigators do not believe bullying was a factor in the , according to police.

Baltimore County Police Chief Jim Johnson, speaking at a news conference in Dundalk late Tuesday morning, dispelled rumors that bullying allegedly led , 15, to open fire on his classmates in the school cafeteria.

"We are aware of many reports that the suspect was a victim of bullying. We cannot confirm those reports. Gladden's conversations with investigators have not indicated bullying was an issue in this case. The investigation is ongoing," Johnson said.

Johnson told reporters that Gladden was cooperating with investigators.

Officials used the conference to reveal a detailed account of the shooting, as well as information about Gladden's family members. County Executive Kevin Kamenetz and also answered questions from reporters.

The police chief explained that although there was an incident in the cafeteria before the shooting, where an object—either food or paper—was thrown toward a table where Gladden sat, police do not believe that incident set off the shooting. The students involved had also already left the cafeteria when the shooting began.

Find copies of Gladden's booking photo and charging documents attached to this article.

Johnson said that Gladden arrived at the school on a bus and brought with him a backpack containing a broken down shotgun that could be reassembled. The backpack also carried a bottle of vodka.

Gladden obtained the shotgun, an early-model Westfield double-barrel of legal length, from the home of his father in the Hawthorne neighborhood in Middle River, according to police. No charges have been filed at this time, related to Gladden's access to the shotgun, Johnson said. 

While investigators have learned that Gladden, a returning sophomore, was able to have several sips of alcohol leading up to the shooting, they do not believe that he was impaired or intoxicated.

Gladden began his first day of the new school year normally, attending his first and second period classes and heading to lunch during third period, around 10:30 in the morning. Before entering the cafeteria, Gladden stashed a bag containing the shotgun in a nearby bathroom.

Police emphasized that the actions of fellow students in the cafeteria, including reports of something being thrown in Gladden's direction, did not directly lead to the shooting.

In fact, Johnson said, after speaking with Gladden, investigators do not believe that bullying was a factor leading up to the shooting at all.

Around 10:45 a.m., Johnson said that Gladden went to the bathroom, reassembled the approximately 34-inch weapon and concealed it inside his clothes.

He walked back into the cafeteria and drew the weapon, police said. Perry Hall guidance counselor Jesse Wasmer then rushed toward him, but before Wasmer could subdue him, Gladden fired one round, striking 17-year-old , Johnson said.

Other Perry Hall staffers then assisted Wasmer, but Gladden was able to fire another shot, which did not strike anyone, Johnson said. A School Resource Officer then arrested Gladden.

Following Gladden's arrest, police searched the Kingsville home of the boy's mother and arrested his stepfather. Andrew E. Piper of the 8500 block of Bradshaw Road in Kingsville . He is currently free on $500,000 bail. A preliminary hearing in the case is scheduled for Dec. 3.

Following the press conference, police released the charging documents and Robert Gladden's booking photo to the media.

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Joyce Kahl Bowers August 30, 2012 at 12:58 pm
To JD1 - What does 'families selling off the family farm' have to do with the fact that an innocent boy was shot by the hand of a troubled youth? Someday I will beselling off the family farm in Perry Hall and although it may create more homes in the area it certainly won't be the cause of such tragedies.
NK August 30, 2012 at 04:46 pm
In 2009, there were approximately 14,000,000 secondary students. By your approximation, there are 12,600,000 students on the road to potential gun violence at a school. I mention this not to be ridiculous, but to point out that your hyperbole of "90 percent" accomplishes nothing other than to inflame parents to the point they are not going to listen to you.
backstrecher August 31, 2012 at 12:31 am
Leslie, I too was sent to an overcrowded black school during desegregation in the 70's, on just my second day of school I had a gun put to my forehead by another student. I guess it all comes down to just how bad the school is, this was just 9th grade. A" bad seed" is just A" bad seed" !
LA August 31, 2012 at 12:43 am
In response to Gabe's suggestion, it's not because America doesn't want to offend anyone. It's because this country was founded on the principle of religious freedom, and institutionalized religion in public schools is the opposite of freedom. Taking away religious freedom will most certainly not change the amount of violence in schools. Comments like yours are why non-Christians think ALL of us are closed-minded people who want to force our beliefs on everyone around us.
You can be a good person and not be religious. You can learn morals without church. And you don't have to believe in Yahweh or Jesus to know that killing or hurting another person is wrong. The problem in our country is not a lack of church, but a lack of personal accountability for our own actions and what we can do together as a community, regardless of our individual beliefs.
Beth September 2, 2012 at 04:50 pm
Everyone, in their grief, anger, fear, and horror wants to be able to pinpoint a reason for this very, very tragic event. I don't think it's one thing; I think it's a combination of many factors, some of which we might never know. On this earth there is both good and evil, and it is ultimately up to us, individually, to decide which one we are going to follow. However, if a child is never made aware of the cost of that decision, he or she will take the lower road, because it's easier. We are all born with the love of God within us, and that is what makes us do the good and right things. We certainly can't manufacture that ourselves. If we don't know about this love, we have no hope. If we have no hope, we turn to desperate measures or we turn to substances to fill our emptiness. This boy had no hope. This boy took the low road and succumbed to the evil of this world. Could he have been helped? Yes, if he knew how to seek out help, but he didn't. The parent/child relationship should be a direct reflection of God's relationship with us, full of love, guidance, grace, respect, and discipline. Obviously none of that was available to this young man. Pray for everyone involved in this horrible situation, and ask yourself what you could possibly do in the future to keep something like this from happening and teach your children well.
JD1 September 5, 2012 at 02:28 am
Follow the thread Joyce - i replied to a comment about overcrowding. PHHS has unsafe conditions because it is horribly overcrowded. This has occurred because areas that were once sparsely populated agricultural areas have become overdeveloped. Glad you were lucky enough to inherit property - do the responsible thing and don't destroy more agricultural land. Hopefully BCPS will build a new HS to ease the unsafe and crowded conditions at the school.
JD1 September 5, 2012 at 02:36 am
Thanks for the moment of clarity!
Daya Chaney-Webb September 5, 2012 at 07:49 pm
So right on, Mike. Managing a high school population like this obviously requires strong violence prevention efforts -- none of which have ongoingly been implemented. Packing 'em in and then having no student support programs is dangerous.
Daya Chaney-Webb September 5, 2012 at 08:06 pm
Very true, Noelle. Schools have now began to be held accountable for incidence rates on bullying and school violence. Other counties in Maryland have implemented programs like "Building Bridges" to prevent and reduce the prevalence of this problem.
While the Office of Special Education has not responded to the very real problem that inclusion of special education students is not happening appropriately in our Bmore County schools -- without planning and school wide awareness programs such as Building Bridges or even appropriate training of staff on special needs -- the county does not standardize any approach to promoting positive relationships between students at all. So, no, they aren't about to admit it was a case of bullying. PHMS could very easy be liable (according to school policy) for failing to respond to any history of bullying of either party involved in this shooting.
Mike Fisher September 6, 2012 at 10:18 pm
THe "no bullying" claim is BS. Gladden *was* being bullied by three kids at this school and he retaliated. His father has spent time or is spending time in jail right now for attempted murder and his mother is a psychopath. Gladden was attempting to retaliate against people bullying him, but he hit an innocent student instead. Way to go, Police. Get the story all wrong. Bullying DEFINITELY played a role in all of this as told to me in great detail by my neighbor Kateland, who actually goes to the school and knows the situation and why it happened. The Police are either incompetent or just want to make Gladden look worse, which is hard to do, but he was being bullied and the shooting was retaliation.
Other Tim September 6, 2012 at 10:46 pm
"Gladden's conversations with investigators have not indicated bullying was an issue in this case."
"Johnson told reporters that Gladden was cooperating with investigators." If Gladden told police bullying was not an issue, I tend to believe the police here.
Mike Fisher September 6, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Regardless of that, it doesn't explain the many witnesses including my neighbor who knew he was being bullied and saw it happening. Gladden could very well be protecting those people because of the shame he feels. I'm glad he's being cooperative, but the "no bullying" seems to go against the common knowledge of people who attend this school.
Daya Chaney-Webb September 7, 2012 at 11:29 am
It is BS Mike, you are right. the schools want to avoid liability. a failure to prevent and intervene on un/documented bullying in middle school is how this happened. yes, the parents are unfortunate. but the school has responsibility to know whats going on with the students.
Mike Fisher September 7, 2012 at 05:29 pm
Well, Daya, being abused as a child and being bullied through school gives me a different perspective on all of this. Bullying, especially in middle school, goes completely unnoticed as if it's just a normal part of school. The only time authority figures step in to do anything is if a fight breaks out or something of that nature. Personally, I was used to it. I got bullied at home constantly, much worse than school and I never got into a fight at school (well, once kinda, but I don't count it because I was laughing so hard at how stupid the situation was and ended up jamming my thumb into the floor from falling over laughing :p )
I'm sorry, but most of this stuff comes down to bad parenting. In my case, it made me a perfect victim. In others, it makes them the victimizers. The cycle of abuse starts early and continues through life. This is why I wrote my Child Abuse blog. Also, I don't think there's any POSSIBLE way that the school doesn't know that there is bullying going on in schools because it's a given, but being a "tattle tale" is something no one wants to be, but maybe more should be. IMO, the parents hold the MOST, by FAR, responsibility because they raise a child that attempted to kill another child for bullying him and the child he shot wasn't even a target, he missed! Father was/is in jail for attempted murder, mother has mental problems, this is what you get. This is why we have so many F'd up ppl running around.
Mike Fisher September 7, 2012 at 05:37 pm
With all my experience of hearing kids and young adults call the radio show Loveline with all these kinds of issues and having their abuse history be so predictable, for 10 f'n years and with all that psychology knows about the effects of abuse on children and how most of them turn out as adults, I know this will be unpopular opinion, but we should not be allowing people to have kids whenever they want in this country under a certain age without meeting certain requirements.
I am *convinced*, without a shadow of a doubt, that parents having kids they have no idea how to raise or were abused themselves as children and never engaged in therapy to work those issues out should not be allowed to have children. It's really that simple. Children under a certain age should not be allowed to have children and adults with abuse or criminal histories shouldn't be either. No one wants to acknowledge these kinds of issues, but THIS is where our CRIMINALS come from, they come from being raised by CRIMINALS or VICTIMS who have not dealt with their issues and pass them along to their children. Why can't we just see that for what it is? More importantly, when do the parents start to take responsibility for raising F'd up kids? No child asks to be brought up in an abusive home. I don't think people should be allowed to have children without the very BASIC screening process and, if needed, ongoing therapy. It just blows my mind that no one wants to TOUCH this issue. Why not??
Leslie Schildgen September 7, 2012 at 05:59 pm
Mike: Our government gives out so many entitlements and make it so easy to have children without having to go to work and/or act responsibly that people have children on their own on purpose to get paid.
Mike Fisher September 7, 2012 at 06:13 pm
It's what happens when America turns into a nanny state and government, which should be small, is now huge government and wants everyone to rely on them. There are so many things wrong and corrupt about this country these days and people are too divided to do anything about it. It just goes to show that they don't really see this as an issue even though it is, quite possibly, the biggest issue facing this country right now. People having kids for all the wrong reasons, then not knowing a damn thing about how to raise them. Things like PHHS, Littleton and all these other mass murders at random locations like movie theaters happen. Kids grow up without the proper direction and instead, they are raised by the TV, inappropriate music for their age and getting involved with the wrong people. This world is so messed up on so many levels, I can't even begin to fathom how it could ever be fixed without a civil war, which I hope never happens. Big changes are needed in so many areas. I do, however, think people are closer now than they've ever been at waking up to the reality of what this country is becoming and WHY it's becoming that way. If nothing else, that is a positive step in the right direction.
Leslie Schildgen September 7, 2012 at 06:32 pm
Mike: Agree 100%
Jeanne September 10, 2012 at 02:16 pm
Mike nobody wants to touch the subject because the governement is already doing so much to butt into your life that when it comes to raising your kids it is a very touchy subject and one politicans stay away from. Please rethink one of the things you said: I was a victim of a terrible crime and it is an issue that I still have trouble with just like a lot of other victoms out there, please don't include us in what you said. The responsibilty comes down to the parents & stepfather. Not only was it the first day of school so no reports for that year but the school system had tried several times to get Bobby help. The help he needed was from his home life, being a bully himself and sometimes being bullied. The school system can only do so much, he is a minor and the parent's responsibility.To a certian degree the parents have control over the school system as well and going by news reports I doubt the parents cared if Bobby got help or not. I have a degree in education and have put in many, many volunteer hours so I know what I am talking about. I wish at some point the system could have taken Bobby from his parents, then he might have had a chance, but this is very easy for the parents to fake like they are doing a great job.
Mike Fisher September 10, 2012 at 07:04 pm
Wel,, Jeanne, I know I have very strong opinions about many things, but I'm not sure what you are asking me to rethink? I'm sorry for whatever crime you were victim to and I certainly did not intend to re-open any wounds.
The government is involved in our lives too much, but they're involved in the wrong ways and I'm not even saying it should be a government agency. Are adoption agencies run by the government? That part I admit I don't know the answer to now that I think of it. I was under the impression that adoption centers were state run. Here's the thing, why should Bobby have free will to NOT get help? I didn't have a choice when I was a child whether I wanted therapy or not because I was a minor. Is this different now? A minor can refuse psychiatric treatment? The school tries to get Bobby help, though not hard enough apparently, and Bobby's parent's didn't care, so this is what happens. Who steps in and says "Hey! We're not going to allow this, either you allow us to give you psychiatric treatment and you do what we tell you to do or you can go sit in juvy or something. You don't just do nothing, how can he refuse anything as a minor? It sounds to me no one really cared about Bobby, not even his own family, no wonder he was so angry at the world and did what he did!
Mike Fisher September 10, 2012 at 07:14 pm
... and here's all I'm saying. You need to be qualified, tested and trained to do the following things: Drive a car, operate heavy machinery, fly a helicopter, be in the military, be a doctor like a surgeon or psychiatrist.. the list goes on and on. Even at adoption centers, they don't just hand anyone a child. I've never gone through the process, but I imagine you need a lot of background checks, evaluations, tests you have to pass, paperwork to fill out, all proving to this adoption agency that you are capable of raising a child in a healthy environment.
Children put up for adoption have already been abandoned by their parents, abused and taken away from parents or whatever other reasons there may be. Mom was a drug addict and father not around, I'm sure there's many reasons. My question is, what sense does it make to have these strict standards and guidelines that you have to meet, qualify for, and pass to do just about anything in life including have a job or whatever it is you want to do including adopting a child, but you don't need ANY training, any qualifications, anything at all to have children whenever you want with whoever you want. You don't need a license, you don't need training, you don't need to do anything except have unprotected sex and we're just fine with that? This is just completely bizarre to me, Jeanne. I just don't think people really, really understand how widespread child abuse is and how it affects the developing brain of a child, it's PROFOUND.
Mike Fisher September 10, 2012 at 07:23 pm
... and our prisons are full of adults who were abused as children who went on to abuse other people, either children or adults because that is how their brains were programmed due to their abuse. That's what they were taught was ok to do, that's what they grow up learning. The first 10 years especially of a child's life, it is SO important to have a healthy home life, good parents who care about you and teach you the right way to live life. When you don't have that, you get criminals like Robert Gladden, you get adult mothers who drown their own children, you have adult fathers who beat the S out of their wife and child, and yet as a society, we just cling on to this "free will" argument?
When your brain is F'd up in this way from abuse, there is no "free will", it's the cycle of abuse. Let me ask you a question. Do you think parents who were not abused as children would ever even think about hitting or sexually abusing their children? Do you think it would even cross their minds to do that? Do you think, if Robert Gladden had a healthy home life and had parents who were sane and cared about him that this would have ever happened? I guess I just feel that having children should be a privilege, something you have to prove you can do before you are allowed to do it. This applies to almost everything else in life, but when it comes to raising children, something more important to society than ANY of those other things, we just say "free will!" Do whatever you want. Why?
Mike Fisher September 10, 2012 at 07:28 pm
Why don't people see that this is causing and enabling child abuse? I just don't understand it at all. It makes no sense to me... why people can't see this. There are plenty of things the government should not be involved with that it is involved with, but when it comes down to it, is it not better for society as a whole to take more precautions to make sure that people who choose to bring children into this world are qualified to be parents as opposed to career criminals or child abusers? Why do we just look the other way, but when it comes to adoption, it's a totally different ballgame. Shouldn't it be the other way around? Shouldn't we do more to ensure kids don't get abused and abandoned in the first place as opposed to waiting for it to happen, waiting for the damage to be done and THEN stepping in and taking it seriously?
Tim September 10, 2012 at 07:31 pm
Leslie, Mike, and anyone else"
The most recent comments are things I generally agree with. I havent read them all. Here's the problem I give you: How do you - legally - prevent the poor from having children? Believe me, I've pondered this same question for years. Why is it people on long term welfare get to pop out 3+ kids, while people who make a hard earned living with both parents working think long and hard over how many children they have - considering their fiscal ability to raise them (among other reasons, obviously). You all know I have solutions or ideas for many problems...but I'm drawing a complete blank on this one. You can't just take away someone's right to pro-create (male or female)...can you? We could apply this to adults who are drug addicts as well, for that matter.
Mike Fisher September 10, 2012 at 07:48 pm
I think raising children should be a privilege, not a right. The answer? Hmm, I don't know. You could make birth control mandatory once you reach the age where you are capable of having kids, girls anyway since we don't have BC for men except condoms, but even they can fail. Many BC methods are 99.8% effective when it comes to things like the BC pill.
You have to earn the right to drive a car, but you don't have to earn the right to raise children? This, of course, all assumes that all parents are good parents and would not abuse their kids. This is not reality, though. People just go around having sex and I don't think there's much you can do to stop people from having sex, but you can do things to lower the chances that such sex does not result in a pregnancy. If you do get pregnant, you immediately must start undergoing training, testing, and attempting to meet the same qualifications that any couple aspiring to adopt a child should go through. If you can't do that, then give the child to parents who DO meet those qualifications. I guarantee we'd have a better society, less crime and better people overall. That's really the only thing I can think of at the moment, Tim.
Leslie Schildgen September 10, 2012 at 07:54 pm
Tim: Stop rewarding people with free money for giving birth
gabe September 12, 2012 at 05:30 pm
If I were the Governor I would reward those who do good for our state. Tax benefits to those who have less children. If you don't have kids you should pay less property tax. Stop giving money to people who do not show they are responsible. Would you keep supporting a family member if they kept buying drugs, guns, beer, etc. I know I wouldn't and the state should not either. This is just common sense. Tax benefits to those who choose private school as they are helping with reducing overcrowd ness in public school.
JD1 September 12, 2012 at 07:40 pm
Eliminate the entire free and reduced lunch program. What do these parents do during the summer? If you can't afford to feed a kid breakfast and lunch you are unfit for parenting - inability to feed is neglect. School lunches can be purchased for $3. If you can't afford that you have no business having children. Like others have said, make it financially tough on folks to have kids and they will stop. Don't get me started on then"independence" card. All of these are manifestations of a lack of responsibility which eventually shows itself as poor parenting. You wat to have responsible kids who know how to deal with things in a healthy way, we have to have responsible parents.
JD1 September 12, 2012 at 07:42 pm
Another thought - why does it cost tens of thousands of dollars and require parents to jump through numerous screenings and hoops to adopt a kid from some third world country yet in the US any low life crack whore or drug dealer can have a baby on the public dime?
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